December 31, 2010

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  • Korean War - The Korean War (1950–armistice, 1953) was a military conflict between the Republic of Korea, supported by the UN, and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, which was supported by People's Republic of China (PRC), with military material aid from the Soviet Union. - Wikipedia
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  • Born and raised in a concentration camp - The story of a refugee born in a North Korean concentration camp and his experiences in freedom (1 hr 6 min)

  • Interview - History of North & South Korea - Dr. Rainer Werning on some of the history of North and South Korea, June 2003 in Seoul, South Korea - critical of South Korea and the USA (43 min)



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  1. About tbe Werning video:

    1. Russians left by end of 40's... except for their advisors, and the puppet regime that had nationalized the industries and installed people's committees throughout the villages and modeled the agricultural reformation after the Ukraine victory of Stalin resulting in a flood of 400,000 refugees fleeing NoKo between 1946 and 1948. That kind of refugee flight doesn't happen unless there is a lot of violence, which he just pretends didn't happen. The nationalization of industry and the agricultural reforms were all peaceful edicts by the People's Committees you know.

    1a. If you read TF's autobio, then even before the war started, Russia was still building the NoKo military at the expense of agricultural production. The nitrate fertilizer TF bagged in NoKo prison camp went to Russia in return for military supplies, instead of food production in Korea.

    1b. Indeed Russians flew Korean warplanes against UN troops.

    2. US and Russia didn't divide NK as a punishment, Russian communists wanted to take over the whole thing but were stopped in the South by the US enforcing the agreements of Stalin and Churchill at Potsdam. US troops mostly left SoKo by 48 after the UN requested elections resulted in the election of Syngman Rhee. The Soviet backed regime in the North refused to hold the UN mandated elections, and the soviet leaning parties in the South boycotted them.

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  2. About the Werning video, part 2



    3. Russia tried to take over Japan too, but was stopped again by MacArthur. Indeed, Japan did take over part of Japan and still has it. Just last year, Russia was asked to give it back by the Japanese and Russia refused. We won't forget that Sakharin was taken during the Russo-Japan war before that.

    4. 100s of thousands of kids dying in Iraq... running the numbers, if you attribute all the increase in childhood mortality to the sanctions (which it is not: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2431/9/40) 50/1000 in 1990, 130/1000 in 1999 before oil-for food, it is at best about 7000 per year (944K births per year). But all Saddam had to do to improve economic conditions in Iraq was follow the UN resolution. Even then, there was an incredible amount of money given to end that humanitarian tragedy through the oil-for-food program that should have saved those children's lives and in the manner of thugs all over the world, Hussein diverted the money from the oil-for-food program to maintain his army and his power. IOW, 500000 dead kids in a few years is pure propaganda. Let's make it 12 years, that's 40,000 per year, over 3000 per month... and where's the TV film? CNN was there and admitted broadcasting stuff favorable to Hussein in order to maintain their offices there.

    5. Wow, did he really go from 1946 and the various factions fighting against the Japanese and jump to 1950's Incheon landing and blame MacArthur for stopping the wonderful formation of people's committees supporting the communists and just let go all the history in between? wow, that's a big sleight of hand.

    6. Kim Il-Sung was a charismatic leader loved and cherished by all the people, something you could not say about any South Korean president... that statement is it's own parody.

    And that's in just the first 12 minutes.

    7. I've read some of the history of the struggles in the south, and 'massacres' occurred on both sides, with people's committees coming in and taking over an area, killing a lot of people and setting up their own command structures, and trying to model themselves after the North and then they in turn being removed from their recent conquests by other Koreans.

    8. He jumbles all that history of pre-war and post-NoKo invasion together around the 14-15 minute mark.

    9. He betrays a profound ignorance talking of the DMZ as a place where even a bird cannot pick some food. In reality, the DMZ has become one of the best nature preserves in either Korea, essentially untrodden by humans for nearly 60 years and full of wildlife that is difficult to see anywhere else in Korea. http://www.tourdmz.com/english/02dmz/p4-1.php
    I'm sure that once in a while a deer will step on a land mine but otherwise what exists there is wilderness wildlife that while not an old growth forest, it is nearly 1000 square kilometers of pristine wildlife habitat. All the eco-buffs should be lining up on the NoKo side to prevent them from trying to cross it with their spanky new tanks.

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  3. @ Ibyron - Thanks for your comment clearing up some of what Werning said.

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